What the 'Catching the Codfather' podcast found out about a fishing tycoon

NPR | By Mallory Yu,

Adrian Ma, Tinbete Ermyas

Published March 22, 2026 at 4:26 PM CDT

NPR's Adrian Ma speaks with Ian Coss, host of GBH's 'Catching the Codfather' podcast, about fishing tycoon Carlos Rafael of New Bedford, Massachusetts.

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Adrian Ma covers work, money and other "business-ish" for NPR's daily economics podcast The Indicator from Planet Money.

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